Maintain our roads while keeping them private!
For Locals, By Locals.
Maintain our roads while keeping them private!
For Locals, By Locals.
For Locals, By Locals.
For Locals, By Locals.
We had a very successful meeting with county reps and Dawn Rowe came through with a $2,500 donation to our NGO, which will be used to start the process. Preliminary boundaries have been set—Desert Willow to Northstar, 62 to Panorama.
The method of surveys by the county to determine parcels included will give the cost per parcel per year. We aim to keep costs between $12 to $17 a month. We will see what the county can provide us for that. The date of the next meeting will be announced as soon as we get the information. If feasible, then a special vote will take place.
Many thanks to Rudy Guerrero, Byanca Velasco, Glenn Harris, and Dawn Rowe for your time and help. Please continue to donate as this is just the beginning of good things to come.
Crappy Roads is an initiative created by locals to improve and maintain our local and feeder roads while maintaining our private road status. Preliminary boundaries have been set—Desert Willow to Northstar, 62 to Panorama.
The next steps to becoming an affordable Special District with the County of San Bernardino for
maintenance of our local main roads and feeder roads are to continue to dispel misinformation and obtain facts, get the information to the landowners, and raise enough funds to cover the costs. We are currently waiting for the county to do surveys and determine the price per year. Our goal is $12 to $17 a month per parcel.
Your support and contributions will enable us to meet our goals and fund our mission. This includes offsetting the costs of meeting rooms, website maintenance, and printing costs.
Current Goal: Funding at least 6 more meetings at Covington Park
All parcels of land that will benefit from the road improvements will be assessed a tax by the county on the annual tax bill. All parcels will be affected, even parcels with no homes or improvements on them. Empty parcels will pay the same amount as parcels with homes. Government-owned parcels, county water parcels, and BLM land will not be taxed. A 2.5-acre parcel will be assessed at the same cost as a 5-acre parcel. People who own multiple parcels will have a vote for each parcel affected by this improvement initiative. Only private citizens who own a parcel of land that will benefit from the road improvements will get a ballot mailed to them during a special election.
Before a single penny is spent, we must first figure out if there is a majority of folks who want to proceed. The county will not get involved unless a majority of people think it is a good idea. We then need to decide the boundaries of the road improvement district. The more parcels that are included, the less expensive it becomes for all of us. Once the boundaries are set, the county will give a “rough draft and cost” of what it could look like. Depending on cost, we would have to decide how many times a year the roads are graded. The residents make that choice based on cost. For example, six times a year will cost more than two times a year. Black top costs more than grading, etc..... If we have a majority of people who want to pursue this, we will need to raise a deposit for the county of $2,500. Upon receipt of that deposit, the county special districts department will figure out the final prices and present us with multiple options. At that point we need to choose an option and pay an additional $2500 for the mail in ballot election to all parcel owners. If the election is successful, the $5000 is refundable. If we are not successful, the county will not return the money. They use it to pay for all the time they spent doing research etc. Final costs should be somewhere between $50.00 and $150.00 per year per parcel. The more parcels, the lower the cost for each one.
We can make the boundaries of this special district however we want. We can do just the North/South roads---Rawson, Big Morongo Canyon, North Star, Lanning, Piedras, Navajo, Bella Vista, and Desert Willow. By doing just those roads it would keep the costs way down as just about every parcel between Big Morongo and Desert Willow would be affected by the tax assessment. We could include some East/ West roads if we wanted. Panorama, Cheyenne, Mecca, Canyon and any other road we want to be included. We choose the boundaries, not the county.
We start by talking to our neighbors and getting an idea if this initiative is supported by a majority of the landowners. To aid in gaining support for this initiative, a fact-based website will be created to post all information as it becomes available. Then the fundraising begins. We will need to raise an initial $2,500.00, then another $2,500, for a total of $5000.00. A Go Fund Me account or some other fundraising site would be the way to go. It would keep the incoming dollars transparent to everyone. Go Fund Me charges 2.9% per transaction + .30 cents. Extra dollars will be needed for website and signage as well as volunteers to make signs etc.
Please reach us at if you cannot find an answer to your question.
The County wants to be sure that we want this road improvement before they take the time to get hard bids and research the roads and their current conditions. If the improvement passes, the
money is refunded.
I spoke to Reyno Perez at the Water District, and he gave me two email addresses to contact him and/or another supervisor Tim Moore. If you are unhappy about a road repair after a water break, please email them. They asked that you put “Morongo Valley Resident” in the subject line.
Tim.Moore@specialdistricts.org, and Reyno.Perez@specialdistricts.org
The unfortunate answer is NO. Speed limits are 55 MPH on rural dirt roads. A road must be paved and maintained by the county to get a posted speed limit.
We can set up road maintenance any way we want and can afford. We can set it up on an “as needed” basis, we can set it up, so roads are professionally graded only twice, or three times a year, with additional “as needed”. We make the choice depending on costs!
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